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“Don’t know if USAF followed the Navy and stopped teaching celestial. Seems a good idea to keep it for backup in case all else if gone in a war situation. Think you could still shoot the stars and get a lat lon fix? ”
USAF has very few boats , used for survival tng mostly. After really great Inertial Nav used in F-4 low levels I had to approve each day no conflicts sail plane clubs, paradrops or parachutes at Spang’s NATO Nuc training rts 70’s to C war end? Mostly rqd as back up for annual qual check off BUT nice know you alone could find own way anywhere even if front seat bailed out .
Now called Combat System Operators, Celestial Nav has always been taught for USN, USAF and US Marines. Only to run aground due GPS errors? US Blue Navy afloat wrong place. .
Lt uses a horizon sextant. I’ve the air nav bubble sextant issued me to bring that Gooney home in Sept ’69 from Germany to Florida. Over time the bubble grows too large , fills the chamber, needs bled off . The level bubble is the artificial horizon to measure altitude. 2 min timer still works for averaging alt to the 60 sec mid time. . It wasn’t usable in a C-47 astrodome where tiny astro compass was the rqt .Both head and sextant did not hang level. So one fix over E. Channel using a coat hanger for a hook landed back in Germany so I forgot about and it, went the entire week using guess and gosh Dead Reckoning between base tacans about 3- 4 hours with nothing but wandering needle after 125 mil range out then in . Never told the pilots. Std use was to point to land starboard and then back down to port coast in. Worked as well as for Chris C. Need a day’s air almanac and star charts for long. lat’s a breeze with Polaris we weren’t allowed to use , always took a quick peek to be certain were close for Govt work. Funny, got off a Col Spgs T-39 taking Generals going to Falcon’s Foot Ball game after letting F-15 contract at St Lois from Andrews DC. I’d met a war buddy flying them . A CA ANG Brig Gen had left a briefcase and came back in own T-39. I walked out he thinking I had the case so I’d a sudden 2 hop all across the US as I got 2nd ride to LA. Asked me ,”What’s in the sextant case, Capt?” “A sextant, General ” says I. Never was asked for it back. Used to show Tom sun lines on the back deck when bubble still was small. No reason what ever’s not working still set firm on level horizon un- moving.
Week’s trip was Germany, Scotland, Iceland , Greenland. Goose Bay Lab. Andrews DC where I Got off. Wx ‘d out in Losssiemouth S’land Keflavic, Icel, Sondestrom G land with extra day each. Garden spots all. Goose was my 32nd bday.
“your recall for 50 to 55 year past events is excellent – I knew the celestial nav article would spark a story or two.”
I’d never carry 4, 1.1 Meg nukes, and NOT know exactly what we 6 alone up there were up to! Always ducked our heads if ever in Kosovo like Hil and Chelsie but never was. Lesson ? NEVER get caught unprotected in a war zone and MOST Ambassadors never are, dumb broad!
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